Bible Roots Podcast
A podcast designed for pastors looking to engage their church with deeper conversations around God\'s Word.

Episode 8: The New Roadmap of Youth Ministry: Randy Frazee AND Matt Markins

In today’s episode, Randy speaks with Matt Markins, the President and CEO of Awana. Matt explores his experience with Awana on the most effective ways to engage children in the Bible and create long-lasting relationships with the church and Jesus.



Since research shows that worldviews are largely established in most human beings by age 13, we have to ask, "Well, what leads to forming them by the age of 13?" Today's 13-year-old is starting in youth group. Two years prior to that, they were finishing the children's ministry program. Three years prior to that, they're eight years old.
—Matt Markins

Matt makes the case that an eight-year-old is the heart of your children's ministry and that the church should be asking, what are we doing to form that eight-year-old that in five years will have their world view established?


Matt Markins

Matt serves as the President and CEO of Awana, a global leader in child discipleship. Matt firmly believes that in this cultural moment, God is calling church leaders and child influencers to understand the times and to make resilient child disciples who will lead the church of the future. Prior to joining the Awana executive leadership team, Matt served in leadership roles with Randall House Publishers, Thomas Nelson Publishers and was the co-founder of the D6 Conference, a discipleship and family ministry community. He’s also the co-founder of the Child Discipleship Form and has co-authored three books:  RESILIENT: Child Discipleship and the Fearless Future of the Church,  Leading KidMin: How to Drive Real Change in Children’s Ministry, and  The Gospel Truth About Children’s Ministry. Matt enjoys carpentry, creating beautiful spaces, outdoor exploration, and breakfast with Katie. Matt and his wife Katie have been involved in children’s ministry for more than 25 years and spend their time in Nashville with their two sons. Facebook Profile LinkedIn Profile Website


Randy Frazee Sitting At a desk

Randy Frazee is the lead pastor at Westside Family Church in Kansas City. A frontrunner and innovator in spiritual formation and biblical community, Randy is the architect of The Story and Believe church engagement campaign. He is also the author of The Heart of the Story; Think, Act, Be Like Jesus; What Happens After You Die; The Connecting Church 2.0; and The Christian Life Profile Assessment. He and his wife, Rozanne, live in Kansas City, Kansas. Facebook Profile Instagram Profile Twitter Profile LinkedIn Profile Website